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		<title>By: RevStu</title>
		<link>http://wosblog.podgamer.com/2010/07/21/benchmark-reviews-busted-more-like/comment-page-1/#comment-2645</link>
		<dc:creator>RevStu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Aug 2010 15:53:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There clearly is something wrong with it, or Olin Coles wouldn&#039;t have reacted in such a crazed blind panic when someone pointed out he was doing it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There clearly is something wrong with it, or Olin Coles wouldn&#8217;t have reacted in such a crazed blind panic when someone pointed out he was doing it.</p>
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		<title>By: ce</title>
		<link>http://wosblog.podgamer.com/2010/07/21/benchmark-reviews-busted-more-like/comment-page-1/#comment-2642</link>
		<dc:creator>ce</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Aug 2010 15:29:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Whoever wrote this must be living in a cave. Many if not most review websites use massive portions of material from the company that supplied the product. I see it all the time, and there&#039;s nothing wrong with it. Take a look at this: http://www.geekinvaders.com/?p=1921</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whoever wrote this must be living in a cave. Many if not most review websites use massive portions of material from the company that supplied the product. I see it all the time, and there&#8217;s nothing wrong with it. Take a look at this: <a href="http://www.geekinvaders.com/?p=1921" rel="nofollow">http://www.geekinvaders.com/?p=1921</a></p>
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		<title>By: RevStu</title>
		<link>http://wosblog.podgamer.com/2010/07/21/benchmark-reviews-busted-more-like/comment-page-1/#comment-1852</link>
		<dc:creator>RevStu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Jul 2010 05:54:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;What are you, an idiot? The 93.6% figure referred to what he was CLAIMING as his own, having admitted that the other 6.4% (ie the passages on pages 1 and 2) was Herman Miller press release.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What are you, an idiot? The 93.6% figure referred to what he was CLAIMING as his own, having admitted that the other 6.4% (ie the passages on pages 1 and 2) was Herman Miller press release.</p>
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		<title>By: M8R</title>
		<link>http://wosblog.podgamer.com/2010/07/21/benchmark-reviews-busted-more-like/comment-page-1/#comment-1851</link>
		<dc:creator>M8R</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Jul 2010 21:38:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You already said that 93.6% of the article was his own, so how could 75% be from Herman Miller press release? Either you are bad at math, or you have an axe to grind with the author and you are using this as an excuse to attack him. I mention this because I&#039;m familiar with several other review websites and most of them put something about the company that made the products they test.

Having actually read his article, long-winded and glowing as it was, there was only a small part on the first page and second page that he didn&#039;t write himself. If he bought a chair and wrote a review about it, who cares? It just seems like you are making a lot out of nothing by complaining he didn&#039;t notify the world of his changes. At least he made them, right?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You already said that 93.6% of the article was his own, so how could 75% be from Herman Miller press release? Either you are bad at math, or you have an axe to grind with the author and you are using this as an excuse to attack him. I mention this because I&#8217;m familiar with several other review websites and most of them put something about the company that made the products they test.</p>
<p>Having actually read his article, long-winded and glowing as it was, there was only a small part on the first page and second page that he didn&#8217;t write himself. If he bought a chair and wrote a review about it, who cares? It just seems like you are making a lot out of nothing by complaining he didn&#8217;t notify the world of his changes. At least he made them, right?</p>
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		<title>By: RevStu</title>
		<link>http://wosblog.podgamer.com/2010/07/21/benchmark-reviews-busted-more-like/comment-page-1/#comment-1850</link>
		<dc:creator>RevStu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Jul 2010 21:27:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have no idea if he got the chair for free, and don&#039;t care. Whether he paid for it isn&#039;t the issue. The issue is his blatant lying about having written the review himself, when it&#039;s clearly at least three-quarters copied from a Herman Miller press release. I&#039;m afraid if you think the changes made are simple &quot;corrections&quot; you must still believe in the Tooth Fairy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have no idea if he got the chair for free, and don&#8217;t care. Whether he paid for it isn&#8217;t the issue. The issue is his blatant lying about having written the review himself, when it&#8217;s clearly at least three-quarters copied from a Herman Miller press release. I&#8217;m afraid if you think the changes made are simple &#8220;corrections&#8221; you must still believe in the Tooth Fairy.</p>
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		<title>By: M8R</title>
		<link>http://wosblog.podgamer.com/2010/07/21/benchmark-reviews-busted-more-like/comment-page-1/#comment-1849</link>
		<dc:creator>M8R</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Jul 2010 21:20:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I found your blog from the Reg, but I&#039;m still a little unclear about what&#039;s going on. So did you prove he was given the chair for free? You would look pretty silly if he had paid for it himself, so make sure to call around. The other things don&#039;t make any sense to me. You keep complaining that he made changes to the article, but most people would call them corrections. I donno, maybe he did take the two sentences without asking, but then again they might have a relationship with the company. All in all, I think I&#039;ve just wasted a lot of time and given both websites a free visit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I found your blog from the Reg, but I&#8217;m still a little unclear about what&#8217;s going on. So did you prove he was given the chair for free? You would look pretty silly if he had paid for it himself, so make sure to call around. The other things don&#8217;t make any sense to me. You keep complaining that he made changes to the article, but most people would call them corrections. I donno, maybe he did take the two sentences without asking, but then again they might have a relationship with the company. All in all, I think I&#8217;ve just wasted a lot of time and given both websites a free visit.</p>
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		<title>By: RevStu</title>
		<link>http://wosblog.podgamer.com/2010/07/21/benchmark-reviews-busted-more-like/comment-page-1/#comment-1818</link>
		<dc:creator>RevStu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Jul 2010 00:09:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t give a crap how much he liked the chair. I&#039;ve never sat in a Herman Miller Embody, for all I know it&#039;s the greatest chair in the world and deserving of infinite acclaim. 

What I care about is his dishonesty. He absolutely provably lied about whether the press-release paragraphs were flagged as such - apparently too stupid to realise that the internet keeps track of these things - when all he had to do was say &lt;em&gt;&quot;Oops, yes, that was a mistake, sorry&quot;&lt;/em&gt;, rather than trying to cover it up while ranting furiously about &quot;dim-witted internet trolls&quot; and making groundless allegations about &quot;threats&quot;. 

(Even now we&#039;re expressly being told that things like the bullet-point list of features including &lt;em&gt;&quot;Creates harmony between people and computers&quot;&lt;/em&gt; are Benchmark Reviews&#039; own work, NOT something taken off a Herman Miller press release. It&#039;s not in italics, after all, and it appears after the bits identified as being Herman Miller-sourced.)

And he certainly seems to be lying about the rest of the review being his own work, given that most of it appears in almost identical form on the Smart Furniture website and they claim ownership of it, while having no reason to lie. 

But tell us this - do you think Mr Coles&#039; reaction has been that of an innocent man? He was simply and politely asked to offer his side of the story and respond to a couple of very fair questions, and he&#039;s reacted in just about the most unprofessional and childish manner possible short of shitting his pants and throwing his rattle out of the pram. Does it seem reasonable to you? 

(I mean, for all the rest of us know that&#039;s how he reacts when you forget to put sugar in his coffee at the office, so maybe it doesn&#039;t seem unusual to you that he flies into a foaming-mouthed rage when someone asks him a straightforward and legitimate question.)

Or are you accusing Smart Furniture of stealing Benchmark Reviews&#039; work and lying about it? Because as we saw with the Guru3D business, that seems to be something that Benchmark Reviews gets pretty mad about, in which case you&#039;d logically be grateful to us for pointing it out - not throwing the world&#039;s greatest hissy fit, desperately trying to suppress all questions about the issue and breaking all sorts of laws by publishing my personal information on the internet. 

Or is it just a pretty incredible coincidence that you both happened to write the exact same 3000 or so words about the same chair?

Oh, and I&#039;d never &lt;em&gt;&quot;throw around accusations of plaigarism&quot;&lt;/em&gt;, because as a professional journalist I know how to spell &quot;plagiarism&quot;. If you&#039;re just &lt;em&gt;&quot;a humble programmer not a professional journalist&quot;&lt;/em&gt;, why are you masquerading as the latter by writing reviews for a commercial website? Are you being paid? Because if you are, I&#039;m afraid I have some bad news for you - you ARE a professional journalist, with all the responsibilities and obligations that position carries.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t give a crap how much he liked the chair. I&#8217;ve never sat in a Herman Miller Embody, for all I know it&#8217;s the greatest chair in the world and deserving of infinite acclaim. </p>
<p>What I care about is his dishonesty. He absolutely provably lied about whether the press-release paragraphs were flagged as such &#8211; apparently too stupid to realise that the internet keeps track of these things &#8211; when all he had to do was say <em>&#8220;Oops, yes, that was a mistake, sorry&#8221;</em>, rather than trying to cover it up while ranting furiously about &#8220;dim-witted internet trolls&#8221; and making groundless allegations about &#8220;threats&#8221;. </p>
<p>(Even now we&#8217;re expressly being told that things like the bullet-point list of features including <em>&#8220;Creates harmony between people and computers&#8221;</em> are Benchmark Reviews&#8217; own work, NOT something taken off a Herman Miller press release. It&#8217;s not in italics, after all, and it appears after the bits identified as being Herman Miller-sourced.)</p>
<p>And he certainly seems to be lying about the rest of the review being his own work, given that most of it appears in almost identical form on the Smart Furniture website and they claim ownership of it, while having no reason to lie. </p>
<p>But tell us this &#8211; do you think Mr Coles&#8217; reaction has been that of an innocent man? He was simply and politely asked to offer his side of the story and respond to a couple of very fair questions, and he&#8217;s reacted in just about the most unprofessional and childish manner possible short of shitting his pants and throwing his rattle out of the pram. Does it seem reasonable to you? </p>
<p>(I mean, for all the rest of us know that&#8217;s how he reacts when you forget to put sugar in his coffee at the office, so maybe it doesn&#8217;t seem unusual to you that he flies into a foaming-mouthed rage when someone asks him a straightforward and legitimate question.)</p>
<p>Or are you accusing Smart Furniture of stealing Benchmark Reviews&#8217; work and lying about it? Because as we saw with the Guru3D business, that seems to be something that Benchmark Reviews gets pretty mad about, in which case you&#8217;d logically be grateful to us for pointing it out &#8211; not throwing the world&#8217;s greatest hissy fit, desperately trying to suppress all questions about the issue and breaking all sorts of laws by publishing my personal information on the internet. </p>
<p>Or is it just a pretty incredible coincidence that you both happened to write the exact same 3000 or so words about the same chair?</p>
<p>Oh, and I&#8217;d never <em>&#8220;throw around accusations of plaigarism&#8221;</em>, because as a professional journalist I know how to spell &#8220;plagiarism&#8221;. If you&#8217;re just <em>&#8220;a humble programmer not a professional journalist&#8221;</em>, why are you masquerading as the latter by writing reviews for a commercial website? Are you being paid? Because if you are, I&#8217;m afraid I have some bad news for you &#8211; you ARE a professional journalist, with all the responsibilities and obligations that position carries.</p>
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		<title>By: David Ramsey</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Ramsey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Jul 2010 22:31:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve been writing reviews for Benhmark Reviews for a year or so now, and I think you&#039;re trying way, way too hard to find some kind of scandal here.

	If you look at any of the reviews on the site (there are hundreds, pick one), you&#039;ll notice they follow a standardized format. They all have an &quot;About [company name]&quot; section typically filled with information from the company&#039;s web site. Now, I&#039;m just a humble programmer, not a professional journalist, so perhaps I can be forgiven for thinking it would be pretty damn obvious that material in this section was in fact company propaganda and not written by the reviewer. Nonetheless Olin has told all his reviewers that this information will henceforth be italicized and attributed for the folks who really, really need a clue...such as-- and I&#039;m just picking an example off the top of my head here-- people who throw around accusations of &quot;plaigarism&quot;. 
Your main beef appears to be that Olin liked his chair too much, leading him to write a review incorporating some Herman Miller claims and a general tone you thought too obsequious. Your privilege, I suppose...now could you please go bother someone else?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#39;ve been writing reviews for Benhmark Reviews for a year or so now, and I think you&#39;re trying way, way too hard to find some kind of scandal here.</p>
<p>	If you look at any of the reviews on the site (there are hundreds, pick one), you&#39;ll notice they follow a standardized format. They all have an &quot;About [company name]&quot; section typically filled with information from the company&#39;s web site. Now, I&#39;m just a humble programmer, not a professional journalist, so perhaps I can be forgiven for thinking it would be pretty damn obvious that material in this section was in fact company propaganda and not written by the reviewer. Nonetheless Olin has told all his reviewers that this information will henceforth be italicized and attributed for the folks who really, really need a clue&#8230;such as&#8211; and I&#39;m just picking an example off the top of my head here&#8211; people who throw around accusations of &quot;plaigarism&quot;.<br />
Your main beef appears to be that Olin liked his chair too much, leading him to write a review incorporating some Herman Miller claims and a general tone you thought too obsequious. Your privilege, I suppose&#8230;now could you please go bother someone else?</p>
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		<title>By: How To Be A Crazy Journo 101 &#187; Revert to Saved: Candid commentary on games, DVDs, music and technology by Craig Grannell</title>
		<link>http://wosblog.podgamer.com/2010/07/21/benchmark-reviews-busted-more-like/comment-page-1/#comment-1799</link>
		<dc:creator>How To Be A Crazy Journo 101 &#187; Revert to Saved: Candid commentary on games, DVDs, music and technology by Craig Grannell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Jul 2010 09:41:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Journo 101 So what would you do if a review you wrote that smacked of press release/brochure copy got &#8216;busted&#8217;, and a journo contacted you for more info, to get your side of the [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Journo 101 So what would you do if a review you wrote that smacked of press release/brochure copy got &#8216;busted&#8217;, and a journo contacted you for more info, to get your side of the [...]</p>
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		<title>By: DG</title>
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		<dc:creator>DG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jul 2010 21:39:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Besides, who cares about that seat, we all want this one.
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&lt;a href=&quot;http://worldofstuart.excellentcontent.com/furniture/sumo.htm&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://worldofstuart.excellentcontent.com/furniture/sumo.htm&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Besides, who cares about that seat, we all want this one.<br />
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<a href="http://worldofstuart.excellentcontent.com/furniture/sumo.htm" rel="nofollow">http://worldofstuart.excellentcontent.com/furniture/sumo.htm</a></p>
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